Gate latching on Metro Green Line delayed

Gate latching on 14 Green Line stations is being delayed until January due to scheduling conflicts, Metro announced Wednesday. The latching of the stations is expected to be completed in February at the earliest.

Metro began latching gates on the Metro Rail subway and light rail system on June 19. All stations on the Red/Purple Lines were latched by August and five Gold Line stations were latched in October. Latching began this week on six Metro Blue Line stations.

When completed, 41 of the 80 Metro Rail stations will be latched and turnstiles will not operate unless a TAP card with proper fare has been tapped at a station validator.

TAP is the universal fare system currently in use by a dozen transit agencies in Los Angeles County. Twenty-six transit agencies are expected to accept TAP cards by the end of 2014, helping to make it easier for customers to pay fares when riding buses and trains operated by different agencies.

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21 replies

  1. Uh-huh. “Scheduling conflicts.”

    It’s usually means unions don’t want to do their jobs until taxpayers fork over additional kazillions of dollars in overtime pay.

  2. Metro can you get Pasadena ARTS bus to add tap to their buses? Handing change all the time is very annoying.

    • Hi Brian,

      Metro is working with many municipal carriers to get them on board with TAP. Thanks for being patient and riding transit!

      Anna Chen
      Writer, The Source

  3. Kyle M – a lot of stations on the Blue, Expo, and Gold lines are just a platform in the middle of the street with rails down the middle. If they added turnstiles, it would do nothing to prevent fare evasion, because people would just jump onto the platform from the rails, and regardless of how much they want to encourage people to pay the fare, their biggest concern is to *discourage* people from running on the tracks. If turnstiles there would cost even one life in a collision (not to mention all the many hours of delays that would cause all the travelers on the system at the time), that would be far worse than losing 10,000 fares to alleged freeloaders.

  4. Why does it take so long to do this? You just bring in the gates to the stations, install it, and presto it’s done. What else needs to be done? It’s not like you’re designing the Space Shuttle for crying outloud.

    Metro should just hire the GeekSquad at BestBuy for this. They probably can get this thing done in a day and they’ll do it cheaper than overly paid unions.

  5. keaswaran,

    Buy out surrounding structures, expand station property, build enclosures, close off the street, put fare inspectors inside the train, check if people TAPed at the destination, whatever. Just get it fixed.

    It’s not like we’re the only city in the world that runs trains on surface streets. There are plenty of examples throughout the world where light rail, trolleys, and trams that run on surface levels that manages to prevent fare evasion from happening without severely impacting safety.

    Is it so hard to type in “trams in Europe” or “trams in Asia” and look at the pictures on Google images and see visually how they run their system, or go to their respective transit website and read how passengers are supposed to ride their systems?

    These things shouldn’t take forever to do. You just Google examples of other cities, how they run it, how they fight fare evasion, watch their transit systems and how they work on Youtube, and presto you do the same exact thing right here.

    It’s so stupid how we have all these tools at hand and we still can’t figure out how to do it. How dumb are these people?

  6. Tired of Nothing Getting Done on,

    Expand station property & buy out surrounding structures – how do you propose to do that? With what funds? My guess is you wouldn’t be willing to pay additional taxes to fund this expensive proposition. Also, how would you deal with the firestorm of kicking people out of their homes?

    You want to close streets? What? How would busses connect people to transit stations with the streets closed? All of this to save a couple million dollars a year in fares. You would spend hundreds of millions of dollars to save a few pennies. Not wise business at all.

  7. Matt,

    Asia manages to figure it all out, reduce fare evasion and even make profit out of mass transit. So I guess we completely suck at running businesses as well as running mass transit then.

  8. I can’t wait. Especially the Avalon station. I ride the train 5 days out the week.I always see people riding the train for free. Makes me wonder why am I spending $$ on a weekly pass. When so many people get away with it. Those are the same people who use two seats to kick their feet up. I always think:” Yeah sure ride for free & hog the seats.” They prevent actual responsible people who pay their fare to ride comfortably. Not to mention all the thefts that I’d witness. Cell phones, e-readers, ipads, purse you name it. Drug use & drug transactions going on. Homeless people using the train to catch some Zzzz. That’s why I love seeing the Sheriffs waiting and checking everybodys tap card. Not to mention the looks on their faces on all the freeloaders when they see them. Its priceless. So I say why wait until Feb. Do it now.

  9. The whole thing about Asia making a profit out of transit is misleading. A country like Japan went into deep debt to build their train and transit systems. They have a government debt at very dangerous levels and their economy has hardly grown in the last 25 years. They also have different laws that allow the government to compete against the private sector that would never be allowed in the US.

    As far as fare evasion, I guess you would say they have better police in Japan, because they have lower crime? Of course, it is much more complicated than that. Overall, we’ll always have higher fare evasion in the US no matter the gates in place, because of our culture of not wanting to follow rules and hatred of government and why should I give my hard earned money to the government mentality.

    Overall, the fare evasion issue is overdone. The gates and TAP system cost will take many years to just pay off from higher fare collections.

  10. Is Willowbrook station [on Imperial Highway and Wilmington Avenue] being latched only on the Blue Line platform or also on the Green Line platform?!

  11. Tierd of nothing getting done,

    your proposals are not realistic. Although Metro can exercise eminent domain and acquire surrounding properties, it is easier said than done. a major PR hit, very costly with heavy legal implications. It would be waaaay less costly to allow people to ride for free than do all the things you proposed. Only solution would be to installed fenching along the tracks so people couldnt run across the tracks and jump onto the platform.

  12. Jeff,

    Metro has to exercise eminent domain and acquire surrounding properties all the time for their transit projects.

    For example, the rail to LAX project involves building a transit center on the corner of Aviation and Century. But when you pull up Google Maps, you see a bunch of hotels (Travelodge, La Quinta, Holiday Inn), apartment complexes and single family homes, a charter school called Bright Star Academy, and businesses (Denny’s, Taco Bell, McDonald’s and an ARCO gas station in that square between Aviation, La Cienega, Arbor Vitae and Century.

    https://goo.gl/maps/QRVDl

    This in itself will be one of the biggest eminent domains that will have to be done by the Metro/LAWA team. It will be a huge headache in itself in consideration of all the apartment dwellers (are you going to kick them out to the street?), and the businesses that are in a prime money making area (do you think Travelodge, Holiday Inn and La Quinta is willing to move when they make so much money catering to LAX visitors who stay at their hotels?). Think of the PR disaster of Metro/LAWA when they decide to shut down an entire school to make way for a transit hub near LAX.

    But it has to be done for the sake of building rail to LAX. LA is growing up as a city and we need a lot of space to build mass transit projects, but we don’t have that space because a lot of LA is already built. The only option left is to negotiate, buy out properties, destroy them and start building new.

    It’s not going to be cheap. It’s going to be expensive, and there will be lawsuits. But there is no other option. We can’t keep living with cars and roads as the main mode of travel.

  13. So the plan is to run the Green Line to the Supulvada leg then run the Westbound trains back Eastbound to some station about a mile east of the entery to LAX then have the patrons board a people mover Westbound. Makes no sense!!

  14. mike dunn,

    If you have any better ideas that does not involve eminent domain on a mass scale that can be done super cheap, I’m all ears.